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Post by andyryu on Jan 15, 2008 20:24:24 GMT -5
in some games ,the controller doesn't work if it was set to "scph-1200" ,then i must set it to "scph-1010" eg"SLPS_00770"
and sometime the controller doesn't move accurately,when i want it move left 1 units, it does 4, eg"SLPS-00309"
it work well in ssspsx
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Post by patrickp on Jan 15, 2008 20:43:28 GMT -5
That behaviour is correct, andyryu: the games you have to use the SCPH-1010: Normal pad setting for are ones that don't support analog controllers. A Playstation will behave exactly the same; the only difference is that on a Playstation, you can toggle between analog and digital modes with a button on the controller, whereas in pSX you have to change it in configuration.
You'll also find you can't access the BIOS screens without switching to the SCPH-1010: Normal pad setting. Again, a Playstation exhibits exactly the same behaviour. No Playstation emulator - or Playstation - will support an analog mode in games that don't provide support for it.
As far as your accuracy of movement problem is concerned, we don't have any psychics here: you'll have to tell us what controller you're using, what driver you're using for it, what operating system you're using. etc.
And it would also be considerate to name your games as well as quoting the game ID. I have no idea what they are.
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Post by Gamesoul Master on Jan 15, 2008 20:44:52 GMT -5
I encounter that movement problem in some games in menus. If that's what you're talking about, then that's already known (though I still have no idea why it does it). You may just have to try and tap the controller buttons lighter so that it doesn't happen so much. The first game is Final Fantasy Tactics (NTSC-J), and the second is a japanese-only Romance of the Three Kingdoms (seems to be the first one, originally on the SNES and later ported to the GBA and Sega Saturn in addition to the PS1). andyryu: Final Fantasy Tactics is one of many games made before the Dualshock controller was made, and thus doesn't support its analog signal. Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a strategy game, and strategy games are one of the main types of games I've noticed to have problems with the cursor moving faster/more than it's supposed to with a single button push. There are no workarounds as far as I know for it.
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Post by patrickp on Jan 15, 2008 21:09:16 GMT -5
... strategy games are one of the main types of games I've noticed to have problems with the cursor moving faster/more than it's supposed to with a single button push... Probably because they're largely menu-based, GM.
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Post by Gamesoul Master on Jan 15, 2008 21:49:37 GMT -5
Well, that does make sense. But usually, the problem seems to occur in save menus and a few other random spots. I can't recall a problem with a battle cursor moving too fast yet, but since we don't really know what he's talking about yet, it may not be relevant. Hopefully he comes back later and clarifies better what he's talking about on that second problem.
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Post by andyryu on Jan 16, 2008 20:51:28 GMT -5
i come back. thank you for reply so fast the two game's name is correct,like Gamesoul Master
i know the first problem's reason now,it's acceptable for 100% emulation
second one ,just like reply say "a problem with a battle cursor moving too fast"(sorry for my pool english) in some games it only for menu and some setting forms ,eg [PS][SLPM-87056].World.Soccer.Winning.Eleven.2002.(J).(SPG).(Konami).
but in this game (Romance of the Three Kingdoms) it presents to battle scene and menu and i notice left and right are more serious than up and down when i press them "lightly" ,it seems a little better i think it must be that the game has it own frequency to process controller signal ,but our emulator send it in other one
my os is win2003 sp1 (3790) which is best os i think,pc is ibm t43,controller is keyboard i test this emulator on winxp sp2 , and i got same result
another bug i encountered is psx ignores some cd track music in World.Soccer.Winning.Eleven.2002.(J) etc
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Post by patrickp on Jan 17, 2008 9:49:28 GMT -5
If you're using a keyboard as your controller, andyryu, then the whole question of whether you use a digital or analog mode for your games becomes moot: a keyboard is a digital-only device. If you run it as an analog controller, you'll still, in fact, only get digital control. Also, the likelihood is that the keyboard you're using is a membrane technology one - these, in fact, have very inaccurate key response, despite their almost universal use. If you'd ever used a microswitch keyboard, you'd be aware of this. AFAIK there are only two companies left providing microswitch keyboards: Cherry in Europe and Unicomp (marketed by pckeyboard.com) in the US. I think most people here would take issue with Windows 2003 Server as being the best operating system, particularly for gaming: Windows users would mostly recommend XP, I think, and, of course, non-Windows users would recommend something else - I'd say Ubuntu Gutsy. It simply isn't true that the more advanced Linux OSs aren't good gaming OSs any more; they are. It's simply that a lot of games manufacturers don't write games (or versions of their games) for them. The ones that are are generally finding good take up (obviously much smaller than Windows ATM, but growing), and the interesting thing is a number of applications with native Linux clients are demonstrating that they actually run better in Linux - pSX emulator does, I think. As far as pSX missing CD track music in your World Soccer: Winning Eleven 2002 game is concerned, how are you playing the game - from a CD or an image and, if an image, what format? Edit: Not all the keyboards made by Cherry and Unicomp are microswitch ones; only certain models are. Since these keyboards are more expensive than membrane technology ones, most of these companies' output is membrane technology.
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Post by westicles on Jan 17, 2008 12:55:39 GMT -5
One thing I've noticed: If I start pSX without my controller plugged in, I have to close out, plug the controller in, open the emulator, and then manually set the controller as the input device in the configuration options.
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Post by Sune on Jan 19, 2008 17:29:53 GMT -5
That's normal behavior.
pSX asks your OS if there's a controller plugged in only when you start it. If you plug your controller in later, you won't be able to configure it because the emulator doesn't know that it's attached.
It's the same thing with other emulators and games - try it yourself and see.
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