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Post by one on Dec 6, 2007 1:48:59 GMT -5
I have a problem starting up my pSX 13.0. Everytime I start it up, it says: "This application has failed to start because d3dx9_26.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem." Now, I'm a total noob at this whole emulating stuff. Do I have to put in the PSX Game Disk or anything, can I download the games? I'm a HUGE Breath of Fire 3 fan, and the ONLY reason I downloaded this program was for me to play some Breath of Fire 3. So, please please please Help me.  |
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Post by patrickp on Dec 6, 2007 3:51:02 GMT -5
Obviously, you're using Windows, one, but you failed to say anything at all about the system you're trying to play it on: nor did you give any information at all except that you have a problem starting the emulator, what the error message was, and incorrect information about the emulator. Version 13.0? We wish! However, the error message makes it painfully obvious what the problem is. If you had read the information on the download page, you'dhave seen However, that's by no means the best solution. Look in the FAQ, read the second answer in the Troubleshooting section and update your DirectX 9.0c installation. You haven't said what operating system you're using, but this applies for most operating systems: if you're running Vista, you may have to download the redistributable version of DirectX 9.0c (a pretty big download) because the Vista version may not be updatable with the Web Installer. Before you post again read the forum documentation; it's all linked at the top of every page in the forum. This is a problem you could easily have solved yourself. Even a noob can read and follow obvious links. You also failed to read the Downloading Playstation games is illegal. Do not ask where you can download games in this forum, or in any other reputable emulation forum. Edit: Yes, you can play with your original Playstation CD(s) or you can rip images from them and play from those. |
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Post by Truth Unknown on Dec 6, 2007 13:39:51 GMT -5
Do note the last time I tried the web installer under Windows Vista, it ran properly. So its worth the time to download what's needed and what's not.
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Post by patrickp on Dec 6, 2007 14:45:37 GMT -5
Was that a vanilla Vista, Truth, or had it already had a version of DirectX 9.0c (apart from the native version) installed?
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Post by cid67 on Dec 6, 2007 18:51:25 GMT -5
first, i would like to say that i would never recommend anyone download anything illegal from the internet, but what if you actually own the game and wish to download a copy. for instance, if your disk where scratched or something., wouldn't that be considered legal or am i missing something. if it is indeed legal, isn't it a little hasty to accuse someone of being a pirate just because they downloaded the game. I can understand the need to be proactive in squashing any references to possible piracy from the forums do to the desire to avoid being a target of copyright holders and there representatives. I am not being argumentative it's just this is something i have wondered about. sorry for being a little off topic but this seemed the best place to post given the context of the posts about piracy on this thread and i didn't want to make a new thread about the subject and open the forums to a large debate about something that you obviously don't want discussed openly.
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Post by patrickp on Dec 6, 2007 19:49:47 GMT -5
No, even if you own the game, it's illegal, cid67. In most countries you can legally make your own backup of the game (i.e. rip it), but downloading is illegal almost everywhere. The reason is partly that, even if the game you own is not only the same game, but the same version (and it's not just area and video standard versions, even within that, there are often many versions of a game), what you're downloading is not a backup of the actual game you own. And partly, it's because someone who posts a game on the internet is committing an offense, so anyone who collaborates with them by downloading the illegally posted game is thereby becoming their accomplice. But there's no problem with discussing this here. It's simply stating that you've broken the law like this, or encouraging or helping people to do so that's proscribed. As a matter of fact, we've been discussing this recently in another thread in this section of the forum. |
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Post by one on Dec 8, 2007 3:17:14 GMT -5
I understand the situations of the law, however; I don't think it's going to make a difference on whether or not we download a product from the internet. Music is used as the same example. It's other peoples properties, there music, there lyrics, the entire hard work and "If you want to listen to it, you have to pay for it." However 90% of the North American population is not even listening to the law to try and avoid piracy. You, sitting at home listening to those lovely songs you have in your MP3 player, downloading music which is technically illegal, (though that doesn't seem to stop you) have the gull to tell me that your not trying to encourage illegal downloading when you're doing it yourself? C'mon, be realistic. Music downloading is illegal, same with movies, and games, and pretty much everything that is not payed for or given the right permission. LimeWire is doing it, the law can't say ANYTHING. And if you want to talk about law, we'll talk about law, I've been studying it for four years. Unless you haven't downloaded anything that you haven't payed for, then by all means; you have my respects, other then that you're a hypocrite and a liar, and you should be a shamed. Also, to add, I 100% doubt that anyone of your administrators of this site haven't downloaded one song from the internet. One song is still illegal, you're fined for same amount; if you have 1 downloaded song, or 10,000 downloaded songs you're fined for the same amount. I'm sorry, though I hate people who give out false/hypocritical information, it's wrong. Anyway, I didn't think downloading this was gonna be like rocket science. All I wanted was an emulator which could play Breath of Fire 3 on it. I didn't know I had to know set it up to my computers 'operating system' and downloading more programs. To tell you the truth, I have know idea what my operating system is, so I need some help.  |
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Post by patrickp on Dec 8, 2007 7:17:44 GMT -5
Any forum supporting console emulation in most countries is potentially vulnerable to actions (not only legal) by the companies owning the rights for the emulator, one. Therefore, it's of no consequence what members may do away from the forum, but we can't allow admissions of illegality in posts here.
It surprises me that someone who says they've studied law says that downloading is Ok because people usually don't get prosecuted for it: sometimes they do. And the fact is, whether people get caught and prosecuted or not, downloading games is illegal in almost all countries. Emulation sites are potentially in the front line: in the past, Sony has prosecuted two Playstation emulators - losing the cases but forcing the developers out of business (or to the point where Sony could enforce a buy out) as a result of costs.
Downloading games is illegal. That is the official standpoint of this forum. Either respect this or stop posting here - this will be enforced. As it is, 20% warning.
You have no idea what your operating system is? I think that, of 1,500+ members and well over 21,000 posts, you're the first person who's ever said that...
You have a computer, yes? Now, you must have an operating system to run that: most commonly, it's a Windows operating system: Vista, XP, 2000 Professional or 98 (there are other versions, but they can't run pSX). Otherwise, if you're running pSX, you're probably running a Linux operating system, such as Ubuntu, Red Hat, Suse, Debian, to name just a few of the major distributions. Since you're getting a DirectX error message, you must be running a version of Windows. And, as I said, this error is specifically referenced on the fairly sparse download page, as well as being referenced in the FAQ. I'm surprised that someone who's studied law for four years isn't reading the small print.
FWIW, DirectX, if you're using Windows, is not an extra program, but part of the operating system. You should always keep your operating system updated, as well as running an effective virus checker and firewall (and keeping those updated, too - especially virus definitions) to make your system secure - unless you simply don't connect to the internet. Also, keeping DirectX 9.0c up-to-date will enhance game playing in general, and the performance of other applications on your PC, as will, usually to a lesser extent, keeping your operating system generally updated.
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Post by Sune on Dec 8, 2007 8:49:46 GMT -5
@ "one"
As Patrick says, the forum policy on downloaded games exists solely to keep the forum legal.
If you post on the forums essentially saying "I broke the forum rules, now help me get this game to work", you're not going to get any help.
Read the rules and be careful how you word your questions. For example, nobody needs to know that you're not using original PlayStation games.
Simple, isn't it.
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Post by patrickp on Dec 8, 2007 9:34:08 GMT -5
Thanks, Sune. Actually, one didn't say he'd downloaded a game but asked if he could. When I gave the obvious answer for this forum, he started questioning that and, as you confirm, we can't allow that here.
As I said in the thread I linked above, we can discuss this. However, it's not acceptable to post here saying that it's Ok to download games (or music files) just because lots of people do. On that basis, quite apart from the fact that it is illegal, billions of flies eat shit, so...
If one continues like this, he'll get banned. However, he hasn't said he's downloaded his game; in fact, from what he says, he may have the original CD. So there's no reason not to help him, unless you don't feel like doing that because of his attitude.
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Post by one on Dec 8, 2007 19:53:26 GMT -5
"You have no idea what your operating system is? I think that, of 1,500+ members and well over 21,000 posts, you're the first person who's ever said that..."
...I'm sorry if I've disappointed you, Patrick. I've always preferred books over a computer for my source of information. Thank you for that unnecessary statement.
Patrick, have you downloaded a music file from the internet?
(I'll be waiting for the answer)
When I told you where I can find to download a game file, I did not accuse you of downloading games, I simply stated if you honestly had a source of information which I could be use for my situation. Nothing illegal.
"If you post on the forums essentially saying "I broke the forum rules, now help me get this game to work", you're not going to get any help.
Read the rules and be careful how you word your questions. For example, nobody needs to know that you're not using original PlayStation games."- Sune
I did not say anything of the sort. Though you should be the reading the posts more carefully and understanding the situation before you claim false accusations. Simple isn't it?
"If one continues like this, he'll get banned. However, he hasn't said he's downloaded his game; in fact, from what he says, he may have the original CD."
I haven't done anything wrong, I haven't broken one rule, though you have broken one rule..."On that basis, quite apart from the fact that it is illegal, billions of flies eat ***shit***, so..."
Profanity? Against someone who simply seeks assistance. Not very wise. I think Profanity is definitely on the ProBoards legal Code of Conduct that you agreed to follow.
And threatening to ban me for not breaking a single rule. Go right ahead if makes you sleep at night.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand. My Operating System is currently Windows XP, though in about three days it will be Windows Vista Premium.
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Post by Melanogaster on Dec 8, 2007 20:22:00 GMT -5
Argh, every week we have one of these beautiful-worded discussion of forbidden-topics...  Look in the FAQ, read the second answer in the Troubleshooting section and update your DirectX 9.0c installation. : so, have you tried that already? You could have read it carefully, for one. Concerning the illegal-download-yadda-yadda, the thing is do not mention the fact that you have downloaded anything, which you didn't do. patrickp: (...) can I download the games? You could have said "no"... |
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Post by Sune on Dec 8, 2007 20:33:04 GMT -5
@ one
It doesn't matter if Patrick or anyone else here has ever downloaded an mp3 or a PlayStation game from the internet.
Nobody here is pretending to be an angel or a saint who does everything by the rules and always obeys the law.
What matters is that it's against the rules of this particular forum to talk about downloading games. This includes asking where to download games as well.
It's very much beside the point to start talking about whether Patrick is a hipocrite or not, he's a forum moderator and he's acting as such, regardless of what he has or hasn't done in the privacy of his own home.
I'm not accusing you of doing anything illegal, I'm just trying to explain to you why Patrick is reacting like he was. That's all there is to it.
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Post by patrickp on Dec 8, 2007 20:56:20 GMT -5
If one continues like this, he'll get banned. Your choice, one. One week's ban. "You have no idea what your operating system is? I think that, of 1,500+ members and well over 21,000 posts, you're the first person who's ever said that..." ...I'm sorry if I've disappointed you, Patrick. I've always preferred books over a computer for my source of information. Thank you for that unnecessary statement. There are certainly tens of thousands of books that explain what operating systems are. You appear to have studied them in the same way that you've studied law... Yes, I've downloaded music from the internet, although not much. However, it's been music that's out of copyright, or otherwise legally offered. I've never downloaded music illegally. Nevertheless, as I pointed out to you, you should not ask about downloading games. This is a forum rule - as I said, if you don't want to abide by the rules, don't post here - and you won't for the next week. Either you learn from that or get permanently banned. You said that. We say that, if you break a specific rule, i.e. asking for help with a game that you say you've downloaded, you won't get help for that game. Sune may not be an admin, but he's a well respected member of this forum. If you disrespect well respected members of this forum, particularly when they try to help you, there won't be much point in posting here any more. No-one will want to help you. You most certainly have broken a rule. Despite being advised that it is both illegal and against forum policy, you continue to advocate illegally downloading games. However, I haven't. "Shit" in the context that I used it is not a profanity: it becomes a profanity when it is not used in its literal sense. You "think" profanity is "definitely" (sic) on the Proboards' legal Code of Conduct? Your supposed four-year study of law looks less likely with each post you make. As I've explained, you have broken a rule, and you ignored explicit and repeated warnings from me. So you're installing a new operating system, and you still don't know what an operating system is? My advice to you - be very careful what you do... patrickp: (...) can I download the games? You could have said "no"... @mel: actually, I did, although more at length.  Edit: I think this thread has got pretty pointless. Thread locked & archived - patrickp |
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