gtmomo
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Post by gtmomo on Mar 4, 2006 21:51:04 GMT -5
If a state of nothing is true then it has always been true and will remain true, thus the creation of any entity beginning from a state of nothing should be impossible. If that is true and if an entity exists then it has always existed and will continue to exist. If any entity exists then a state of nothing is untrue and impossible. If a state of nothing is untrue, the existing entity is infinitely massive because only the entity exists and a state of nothing is therefore an impossibility inside and outside of the entity. An area outside the entity could not exist because it is infinitely massive and there would exist only a state of nothing which is impossible.
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Post by valid name on Mar 4, 2006 22:15:28 GMT -5
If a state of nothing is true then it has always been true and will remain true, thus the creation of any entity beginning from a state of nothing should be impossible. First of all you have no relation between an entity and nothing. Second of all if nothing is true, creation of an entity from nothing is possible. again, they do not correlate at all to each other. see above. don't quit your day job. /if nothing is true, blue must not exist
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gtmomo
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Post by gtmomo on Mar 5, 2006 9:57:30 GMT -5
if a state of nothing is untrue
a state of nothing simply means nothing exists.
not energy, not up or down. nothing.
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zaffo
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Post by zaffo on Mar 5, 2006 14:10:35 GMT -5
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Post by deftonesrule on Mar 5, 2006 20:21:47 GMT -5
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence
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Post by elitejavi on Mar 5, 2006 20:38:22 GMT -5
thats exactly what i thought... seeya
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gtmomo
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Post by gtmomo on Mar 5, 2006 23:31:31 GMT -5
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence if evidence does not exist, evidence does not exist.
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Post by Truth Unknown on Mar 6, 2006 0:02:47 GMT -5
Nothing is something, so nothing is a meaningless word.
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Post by mitsukoaninikkou on Mar 6, 2006 6:21:35 GMT -5
But if you don't define nothing, how can you define something?
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Post by Joseph on Mar 6, 2006 8:17:30 GMT -5
Wait...so an entity made of nothing is not true, but if it existed, it couldn't exist? I'm having a bit of mind freeze. Maybe later I'll work some chemistry in.
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Post by deftonesrule on Mar 6, 2006 8:43:08 GMT -5
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence if evidence does not exist, evidence does not exist. there are known knowns, and known unknowns, but there are also unknown unknowns. just cuz you dont have evidence of something dosent mean it dosent exist... ;D --------- free karma point to whoever knows where i got all that from
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Post by Truth Unknown on Mar 6, 2006 10:14:00 GMT -5
Damn Adult Swim, Boondocks is where you got that. More Specificly one of the crazy white guys.
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gtmomo
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Post by gtmomo on Mar 6, 2006 17:13:32 GMT -5
Nothing is something, so nothing is a meaningless word. the WORD "nothing" is something, but there can possibly be a state of absolute nothing. alternatively there can be a state where something exists. i believe these are pretty fundamental truths. But if you don't define nothing, how can you define something? "a state of nothing" for my purposes, is defined as a state with no properties at all. if evidence does not exist, evidence does not exist. there are known knowns, and known unknowns, but there are also unknown unknowns. just cuz you dont have evidence of something dosent mean it dosent exist... ;D --------- free karma point to whoever knows where i got all that from if something does not exist, it does not exist. that's pretty simple.
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Post by Alan on Mar 6, 2006 22:07:49 GMT -5
Here's the question. --- How do you know if something exists or not? Nothing is nothing and something is something - but ... is something nothing or is nothing something?
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gtmomo
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Post by gtmomo on Mar 6, 2006 23:57:47 GMT -5
Here's the question. --- How do you know if something exists or not? Nothing is nothing and something is something - but ... is something nothing or is nothing something? that's more a philisophical question... like assuming we're not all living in someone's dream.
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