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Oct 20, 2006 19:06:15 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2006 19:06:15 GMT -5
Is your OS giving you trouble? Is it too expensive? Does M$ demand more from you? Is it hard to keep safe? Have you always wondered if there are any other options? Well look no further, the thread for Linux has arrived! ;D So, since it's pretty obvious how people don't really like Windows in general (not here, but everywhere), why don't they use Linux instead? Probably gaming is a big factor at it, but if that is the case, why not set up a dualboot system? Play with your Windows, and do everything else with Linux. What are your excuses? For the record, I run a dualboot system with Windows XP Home and OpenSuse, and while I'm definitely not a linux hacker of any kind, it was pretty easy to set up. I think Linux has a reputation of being an OS just for the geeks who work only command line, but those days are long gone. Discuss.
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Oct 21, 2006 8:21:38 GMT -5
Post by patrickp on Oct 21, 2006 8:21:38 GMT -5
I generally agree with with you, Herra (I'm running a dual boot with W2K and SimplyMEPIS), but it has to be said, it's not quite that easy yet!
Firstly, you do need to spend a little time with it; it's _not_ the same as Windows, although I'd agree it's not hard to figure out. But you do need to spend time with it.
The biggest problem is probably device drivers - too many PC device manufacturers are still remaining intransigent as far as Linux is concerned, and available drivers are non-existent (but can often be replaced, albeit inadequately, by a generic one), written by people who don't have access to proper documentation on the device (bit like Playstation emulation!), or written by the manufacturer, who hasn't bothered to produce a driver that makes the device work as well as it does under Windows.
I think that, as M$ alienates more and more of the market, more Windows users start getting fed up with the constant-device-upgrade-to-run-new-software vicious circle, and more and more people realise that Linux _is_ a viable alternative (and free!), device manufacturers are going to be forced into the realisation that blanking Linux and pandering to M$ is becoming less and less of a realistic business plan. At some point, I think there's going to be some sort of flip-flop effect and M$' days as Masters of the Universe will be numbered.
But it hasn't happened yet...
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Oct 22, 2006 7:18:17 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2006 7:18:17 GMT -5
I tried SimplyMEPIS as well when I was going through potential distros, and it was pretty easy to set up (don't know how old your setup is, maybe it was different then) now. Most of the more popular distros have a gui in the install these days, and automatically prompt you to install kde or gnome or whatever as well, so in that way it's not all that different from windows install.
But yeah, hardware drivers can be a problem. Not for me, fortunately, but I bet for some. Everything I have was properly recognized, and eventhough some drivers are generic, they work fine.
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Oct 22, 2006 9:05:46 GMT -5
Post by Ultima on Oct 22, 2006 9:05:46 GMT -5
I'd considered switching to Linux, but never found any convincing reason to switch from Windows -- Windows and I get along just fine The only reason I'd pondered about it must've been curiosity, I guess (which isn't a good enough reason for me). Or maybe to make it easier to work on my systems programming projects. But I've already completed my systems programming course I have messed with Debian in school before, and messed with Ubuntu a bit on a VMware, but that's about it.
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Oct 22, 2006 13:15:13 GMT -5
Post by TheCloudOfSmoke on Oct 22, 2006 13:15:13 GMT -5
Your'e starting to sound a lot like a spambot for Linux, Herra... JK. I've thought about switching over to another OS just out of curiosity like Ultima, but I probabably never will for a few main reasons:
1.) Microsoft owns my ass. 2.) I've been using Windows based OSes for about 10 years and I can't imagine starting off fresh with a new OS and learning the new little shortcuts and trying to learn my way around when using Windows is like second nature to me. 3.) Most freeware programs and some commercial programs are made for Windows first and you may have to wait quite some time to get a port for another OS (granted that the programmer has even considered doing ports for other OSes). And when I say freeware, I'm also talking about my precious emulators that I can't live without. 4.) When I go to popular computer stores to buy a new PC, Windows is always conveniently installed on the computer.
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Oct 22, 2006 13:33:43 GMT -5
Post by Ultima on Oct 22, 2006 13:33:43 GMT -5
Personally, I'd consider point 3 to be moot (mostly anyway, besides the last bit, which is related to gaming), since you can say the same about Linux having applications that Windows doesn't Granted, the quality and maturity of the applications under Linux might possibly not be as good as the Windows counterpart (since Linux applications are typicallys hobby projects whereas Windows applications are often commercially backed), but there are counter-examples to that as well. And 4... well, that's just laziness to take time to install another operating system xD
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Oct 23, 2006 14:32:29 GMT -5
Post by Gamesoul Master on Oct 23, 2006 14:32:29 GMT -5
Yeah, not to mention that I normally reformat a computer upon getting it/finding it. Fresh installing an operating system is a great thing to do. Dualboot Windows/Linux OS's is a good idea for a lot of people, though obviously not for all. If you're willing to go the extra mile and understand/use the benefits, then go for it!
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Oct 23, 2006 15:12:55 GMT -5
Post by Ultima on Oct 23, 2006 15:12:55 GMT -5
I used to reformat every 6 months or so... Now, my WINDOWS directory was created on "Saturday, June 25, 2005, 4:25:21 AM" -- well over a year old, and approaching a year and a half. I keep my system very lean and clean -- it starts up with about 15 processes running, if that's any indication
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Oct 23, 2006 16:10:20 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2006 16:10:20 GMT -5
About the points TCoS raised, I really don't agree with the number 2. It's not that different. Of course there are differences, but it's surprisingly similar, especially considering the reputation. I think some distros even aim to "emulate" Windows to ease the user into Linux after lifetime of Windows. The rest are just The Man™ owning you. ;D ;D Also, while it was brought up, I used to reformat my machine regularly once upon a time, but these days only out of necessity. Like say, a few weeks ago I bought a pile of hardware, and to no surprise Windows didn't like me changing the mobo under it. I had to repair the install with my CD, but because the cd is original XP, and I had SP2, it obviously overwrites some important stuff with older, less compatible stuff. It was terribly unstable, so I just backed shit up and made a fresh install on that partition. Also, I might mention that after the hardware was in, and I booted Linux, it just asked me if I wanted to remove the drivers for the old and now absent hardware, and installed the new ones without a problem. And remains as stable as ever. I'd say that Windows will always be the OS for those who buy their computers in a neat prebuild package, and when it gets old, they just buy a new package and has some computer store move their files over to the new computer. Which is why Windows will always remain the dominant OS, there are just so many computer (hardware) illiterate people out there versus people who build their own machines, or like to experiment with it. And this is the end of my rant. ;D
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Nov 9, 2006 2:14:17 GMT -5
Post by LiNuX-CoRe on Nov 9, 2006 2:14:17 GMT -5
Hi all!
I'm new to pSX, but I love it. Also, I'm no stranger to Linux. I was converted to Linux via Ubuntu Dapper Drake. I now use Edgy Eft, but you get the idea.
I hope that one day soon, pSX will be ported to Linux so that I can drop Windows...well, almost.
Jesse~
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Nov 9, 2006 19:57:16 GMT -5
Post by Ultima on Nov 9, 2006 19:57:16 GMT -5
It will be
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Nov 10, 2006 0:31:33 GMT -5
Post by LiNuX-CoRe on Nov 10, 2006 0:31:33 GMT -5
Very NICE! I would love this now that I overclocked my AMD Athlon XP, used a new heatsink w/ fan and just upgraded my video card to a 256MB AGP card (nVidia, of course). Besides, playing all this on XGL (3D Desktop) will be SWEET! Just let me know when it's ready for testing. I'd be more than happy to help out in that aspect.
Jesse~
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