Microsoft TV Tuner

[niceguy71486]

Hello everyone. I was just wondering would it be possible that when I buy a new computer and get the Microsoft TV Tuner card for Windows MC edition would that allow for all playstation emulators to make games look as they should on a real TV since the TV Tuner would have the NTSC Filter for clearing up TV shows that you would watch on your PC or when you connect a game system like the playstation to it. Just curious because if it is possible than that might help a lot of people who are waiting for PSX Emulator to come with an NTSC Filter thx.

[Ultima]

A TV tuner card does nothing of the sort. It allows you to watch television on your computer, and maybe (depending on the card) allows you to connect certain types of input wires into it. It doesn't add a filter to whatever application you want (the emulator, in this case).

Edit: Oh wow, I wrote "television on your TV" instead of "television on your computer" -.-

[Truth Unknown]

You would need a video card that outputs to Composite Video (RCA like).

[Haldrie]

Ok niceguy, I think I see what you are asking.

The reason the real Playstation looks the way it does on your TV is because the TV's picure quaility is inferier to that of a PC monitor. If you ever try to output video from your PC to your TV through say an s-video signal you can see what I mean. pSX really does show the exact picure quality that real Playstaion is processing. The only thing is that all of the "imperfections" in the video are more obvious since you are viewing the games using an RGB monitor instead or a TV.

The only thing I could suggest to be able to use pSX with the same quality your use to is to run it full screen and use your PCs video output to connect a real TV to it and play it that way.

A TV turner will only allow you to watch TV on your computer through various inputs such as the old coilax antenna and composite RCA connections. I would say you can try playing your real Playstation through these connections but there is usually a few seconds delay between the actual signal from the input and what you finally see on your screen so playing games is near impossible this way. Believe me I've tried.

[patrickp]

I actually do it, haldrie; there's no delay whatsoever. I usually just run a composite video (and audio) lead from my Playstation into a VIVO (or the VIVO input of an AIW - I've done this over the years with several different setups) videocard.

No reason why not, niceguy71486. You'll be much better off inputting a composite video signal (most Playstations will output composite video; AFAIK some of the earliest ones also output s-video) than running the RF output into a tuner. This is because a) converting the output into an RF signal in your Playstation and then the RF signal back into a video signal only degrades the picture quality and b) I think the RF output of a Playstation is mono audio only.

Like Ultima, I'm not sure what you mean by 'NTSC Filter,' except that most PC software that you would input a composite signal into will give you the option of using an NTSC, PAL or SECAM standard to view it; obviously, only the appropriate one will give you a good, coherent picture. Generally speaking, tuner inputs on PC cards tend to be one standard only.

But yes; if you've got the appropriate card, software and Playstation lead, no problem.

Edit: you might want to take a look at the 'Hooking up PSX to computer?' thread, niceguy71486.

[Gamesoul Master]

The only thing I can think of that relates to a "NTSC filter" is in ZSNES... and I tried that once. My display stretched to be *way* off the page (I could only see the upper-left corner of the display, about a third of the whole display). And it looked ugly. If you wanna check it out, check one of the latest WIPs for ZSNES and in the "Filters" tab for graphics, find "NTSC".