Might and Magic...

[psicomaniaco]

... am I the only one nowdays who still plays these games? What happened here, when I was a kid, the M&M games did for the PC what Final Fantasy did for the console RPGs. They where used as references when talking about RPGs, alongside with Ultima (not the admin fella, the series ) and Lands of Lore.

But now, what happened? Not only I feel like no one ever talk about this series anymore, but I guess no one seems to be suffering for the fact that it seems no 10th game is being made!

When I talk to my friends about these games, they look at me like I have a third arm, and tell me to go play a real RPG: Final Fantasy!!! Ok, far from me to say something bad about Final Fantasy, but why did FF became so important on the RPG world? I mean, linear games where you can't even create your own chars, you don't have to bother leveling up (at least not on the later games. After FF7, you don't need to do this) and don't have more than two or three sidequests... They aren't real RPGs. Again, I DO like FF, but why they are considered RPG references, when they are getting away from the RPG genre?? (FF is NOT better nor worse than M7M, they are just diferent games).


Anyway, maybe I'm alone on this, but FOR ME the M&M series is still the real reference to the RPG genre.

I just wanna know: does someone here feel the same way as I am? Does someone else here feels like the RPG genre, the REAL RPG genre is dead? Is someone else here waiting for M&M 10, or maybe Ultima 10? I really rope so.

[Ultima]

Hm, I've actually never played either game (shame on me ), but wouldn't Dungeons and Dragons be the real precursor, and grandfather of it all?

Hah your new avatar and signature are reminding me that I should play Lunar sometime... I'd been thinking of playing it as of late, but never actually started =\

[patrickp]

Funnily enough, the only Might and Magic games I've played were on console...

And the Ultima games were superb - I've mentioned some of them before on this forum, Ultima IV and the Underworld games (I think - definitely Ultima IV).

[psicomaniaco]

ultima said:

Hm, I've actually never played either game (shame on me ), but wouldn't Dungeons and Dragons be the real precursor, and grandfather of it all?

You should. All M&M are great, if you are a fan of classic RPGs.
Just don't expect to run them without the Dosbox emulator (and some XP patches for MM 6-8).
D&D is surelly the grandpappy of the genre, but IMHO the M&M and Ultima games where the ones that popularized (spelling?) the genre on the PCs (well, lets not forget about Lands of Lore too, neh?)

ultima said:

Hah your new avatar and signature are reminding me that I should play Lunar sometime... I'd been thinking of playing it as of late, but never actually started =\

Hahaha, Lunar is one of my favorite console games ever. Too bad its VERY short (normally it takes 10 hours for me to beat it), but sometimes we DO need shorter RPGs, neh?

patrickp said:

Funnily enough, the only Might and Magic games I've played were on console...

The first two M&M's on the consoles where quite nice actually. Even the Nes version was better than the PC one (at the time, the PCs used EGA graphics and PC speaker sounds). But the magic was lost after the horrible port of MM3 on the Snes. I also heard that MM8 was ported to the PS2, but only in japan.

patrickp said:

And the Ultima games were superb - I've mentioned some of them before on this forum, Ultima IV and the Underworld games (I think - definitely Ultima IV).

For sure.
Too bad Ultima 9 was a huge disapointment, but I liked all the older Ultimas. The Underworld series is actually the closest thing to M&M, btw.


Man, I feel like an old man when I keep talking about ancient games.

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I've never played any D&D based PC games, never really found them all that interesting I guess. But I think it's fair to say that I never really gave them a chance either. I did play a lot of real pen & paper RPGs as a young lad, mostly Cyberpunk though, but some others as well.

As for Might and Magic, I've only played the "spin-off" series, Heroes of Might and Magic, quite a lot actually. Heroes III probably the most, it was the first of the series I played (later went back for the first and second). Right now I'm playing Heroes V campaigns (dungeon campaign right now), and it's still good, though not as good as HoMM3.