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Post by kinghanco on Mar 4, 2007 13:58:11 GMT -5
Old Gameshark can't be found anymore. Just the Gameshark CD still can be found on internet. So useless to find an old Gameshark that hookup on the back of playstation now. I can't see why we still need a old Gameshark or old Action Replay just to dump the BIOS anyway. There is another way to dump the BIOS. People just got too darn lazy to make better stuff to dump the BIOS since old Gameshark been banned years ago. I don't know why people keep on talking about it since old Gameshark not hardy to be found. The only person who have one is the people bought it years ago and not today. Past is the past and not now. Lets drop the subject and let it die.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2007 14:34:12 GMT -5
There is another way to dump the BIOS. Care to elaborate? edit: Also, my machines are SCPH-7002 and SCPH-5552. |
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Post by patrickp on Mar 4, 2007 15:57:45 GMT -5
What are you talking about, kinghanco? You can still get Gamesharks and Action Replays on ebay; they're just not as common as the CD version, so you have to look for them. I wouldn't be surprised if there were specialist sites selling them - yes, a quick look on google turns them up: they're still being made. And they were _certainly_ never banned.
If you want to find one, look for 'game enhancer cartridge playstation.' "Game Enhancer" seems to be what they're usually called now, since I don't think Gamesharks and Action Replay cartridges are still made under those names.
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Post by kinghanco on Mar 5, 2007 0:34:01 GMT -5
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Post by patrickp on Mar 5, 2007 3:37:15 GMT -5
No, those look as if they're more likely to be CD versions - at least, none of them say they're a cartridge or or shows an illustration that would support that.
I didn't find the current ones on ebay; I found them, as I said, by googling for
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Post by kinghanco on Mar 5, 2007 5:11:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2007 9:04:25 GMT -5
Yes, those looks like the real deal.
Don't know about the first one, but the second one isn't compatible 9xxx models though, as it plugs into the parallel I/O port.
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Post by kinghanco on Mar 5, 2007 18:27:34 GMT -5
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Post by Truth Unknown on Mar 5, 2007 19:04:17 GMT -5
The 900x model of the PlayStation has no Parallel I/O (it would be on the back, opposite of the power plug side with a plastic cover on older models). I believe it was removed to stop the BIOS dumping and use of Devices to bypass region locks.
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From Wikipedia, "The parallel port (which was mostly unused by Sony) was also removed to reduce production costs." I guess thats why sony was able to do the price drop at the time.
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Post by Haldrie on Mar 6, 2007 19:57:26 GMT -5
That's what the back of my PlayStation looks like. I've noticed that some games have a system link feature which I'm guessing is to be able to link 2 PlayStations together as a special multiplayer feature which I guess would also use the Serial port. I guess this would be a nice feature to add to pSX as well (maybe for a LAN connection pSX to pSX).
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Post by kinghanco on Mar 7, 2007 7:14:27 GMT -5
Thanks Truth Unknown to give me the answer. I understand now.  |
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Post by m4m on Mar 11, 2007 0:15:28 GMT -5
let the truth be told....
The parallel port was removed not because of costs, nor bios dumping, it was because of the cheating devices, mainly the GSPro! Yes, you read that right. When the GameShark Pro came out is when sony had enough. Why? They claimed that cheating greatly reduced the quality of gameplay, and their attempt to remove "cheating" was to remove the port from the back.
OK, then on top of it, they told the public that they removed the "hardly used port" to reduce costs......funny.....because if you took apart the later models that had the "port removed", all that they removed was the port itself, the solder points were still there! All you had to do was cut a hole in the back of the psx, get the port and solder it in, and there you have your parallel port back. Now tell me....how did they cut down costs by removing a port and having a new case designed without the port in the back?!?
Which brings us to our next subject....why the GSPro? How was this device the reason why the port was removed? Simple. Not only was the GSPro the best cheating device out at the time (most compatible with least amount of bugs), it also had a built in hacking utility (which gave direct memory access of the psx while it was running....hmmmm.....) I guess sony didnt like that, but thats not all. The GSPro also had built in memory cards...yes, cards, as in 8 memory cards!
So, by now this is getting sony upset... you have a cheating device that allows direct access to the playstations memory to hack games AND 8 memory cards built in...but thats not all! with the 1st run of PC software that came with it, you could hack codes for it from the PC by using a parallel cable while the psx was running....so you have a PC at your disposal to access the PSX's memory while the psx is running (HMMMMMMM......), but thats not all! the first run of the PC software ALSO allowed the ability to copy the gamesaves from the GSPro, and from the memory cards themselves, onto the PC......wow.
So, when you look at it, the GSPro was one mean cheating utility......with this little black box, you could hack game codes right from the psx, with a PC, save gamesaves right to the GSPRO, have 8 memcards built in, and be able to copy the gamesaves from the psx to the PC, all from one device....no wonder when it first came out it sold for $40!
heh, now sony is pissed. Here is a cheating device that does all of this....and later had one more trick up its sleeve, the trick that broke the camels back, sort of speaking. One smart fella figured out a way to use the area of the gspro that saved the gamesaves (8 MB total) to store a little program. This program, called arstop (or ar3stop), allowed the use of playing backups on the psx! How this worked is that when the gspro was flashed with this app, you lossed the built in memory cards (attempt to even access this area after flashing would corrupt the app, but you would get the built in memcards back), but all of the other features were still there. Now, once flashed, the gspro still worked the same, but you had to have the door switch "stuck down"....why? because when you had it flashed, and booted up the psx, it started the same. you put your origional psx disk in, started up the psx, sellected what cheats you wanted, and then launched the game....what happened next was the trick....after the copy protection was loaded from the origional disk, the CD would stop spinning, so you could pull out the disk, put your backup in, pressed the button on the side of gspro, and the backup disk would load!
So, you have a cheating device, hacking device, gamesave transfer tool, built in 8 memory cards (or "modchip" more or less) built into one device. THAT is what caused sony to "remove" this port.
Finally....how do I know all of this? after I found out that sony was removing this port, I did a little research online (this was back when the "last chubby psx" was released, and that is when I dug all of this up. And, yes, I still have my gspros'.....yes, 2 of them, one flashed with ar3stop and the other is still stock, along with a still working psx with the parellel port in back.
heh, and no, I am not selling either....It took me 3 years before I was able to find those gspros....in a pawn shop none-the-less, both of em for only 3 bucks each....and the best part is that being that "nobody wanted them", she sold both of em (GSPros') for $3 for both.....I deal that I will never find again.....
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Post by Haldrie on Mar 11, 2007 2:39:17 GMT -5
Wow, now that's a lot of detail. Come to think of it I think I also have an old PSX that has a parallel port but I never realized it until now. The down side is that the CD reader is broken as well as the controller/mem card ports so if I want to use it I have to take the broken parts out of the working PSX and put it in the old one. I'm now tempted to hunt down this GSPro and try this stuff out for myself.
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Post by patrickp on Mar 11, 2007 10:02:25 GMT -5
You do see them offered on ebay - I have the impression that they're offered more often in Europe than in the US.
Possibly because, as with DVDs and regionalisation, Europe suffers much more from this sort of trade protectionism - we get a vastly inferior selection of titles, both DVDs and games, offered to us. If we can use US versions, it's actually cheaper to buy them on ebay or Amazon (DVD titles, for instance, commonly sell over here in pounds at about what they're sold for in the States in dollars - work it out!), as well as getting us a far better selection.
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Post by kinghanco on Mar 14, 2007 23:02:21 GMT -5
You blown me away m4m! ;D
Now I know more of this.
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