andeh
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Post by andeh on Mar 9, 2006 20:49:19 GMT -5
Heya guys. Downloaded pSX1.3 a few hours ago and have been playing around with it.
This is my problem. I use the correct BIOS version (I have also tried many different ones) but still, only half of my games will load. They are original PAL games. Silent Hill works fine, as does Metal Gear Solid. FFVII and FFVIII won't even boot up. And this is with the BIOS that made Silent Hill and MGS run perfectly.
What's up with that? All the games are original, PAL and are in perfect condition. Tried changin the resolution back and forth but that did not make a difference.
Hope you can help me out!
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Post by pSX Author on Mar 9, 2006 20:54:09 GMT -5
Some PAL games are known not to work because they contain anti-mod copy protection (I hope to fix this soon).
I thought FF7 PAL worked though...
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Post by Waren AlKar on Mar 9, 2006 22:47:44 GMT -5
Yeah, it does. I've yet to get FF8 and FF9 PAL to boot, though I'm pretty sure that has to do with the PAL versions using some sort of copy protection mechanism with the subchannel. Or, at least, such is the case with FF9. I'm unsure on FF8.
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Post by mikie on Mar 11, 2006 8:07:16 GMT -5
Hey, im trying to play legened of the dragoon which is original and NTSC, game boots up, but freezes when I come to the sony entertainment screen.. I never get in to the game menu?
what to do?
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Post by deftonesrule on Mar 11, 2006 9:06:49 GMT -5
i wonder if you could convert it to bin/cue, rip the games and look for a ps1 pal2ntsc converter. i use one of those for my ps2 games,... thats a whole nother story btw.. lol
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Post by Orusaka on Mar 11, 2006 15:20:07 GMT -5
I can't really imagine that it is the copy protection that keeps ff8 and ff9 from running, seeing as the emulator will not run cracked version either. It's true that one would need sub-channel support to get by the original copy protection, but neither will the cracked copy run. www.megagames.com has an archive of cracks for psx-games. FF8 and FF9 will, for instance, not run in epsxe without sub-channel data, but it will run once you crack it. In the emu, however, they will not run either way.
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Post by Shaltif on Mar 11, 2006 18:39:47 GMT -5
FF9 [NTSC-US] runs fine in this emulator (that I've played so far). The PAL version (not patched), which my friend used, doesn't play. Once he patched it, he could play it up till the first trip to Lindbrum (error that freezes half-way thru the movie like using ePSXe 1.6.0). The only way we could get around this was to load the game in ePSXe 1.5.2, get past that area, then come back to pSX and continue.
Legend of Dragoon [NTSC-US] I could get to play as well, but I had to apply a patch to it (this appears to be one of the few NTSC-US games that has the same protections as the PAL games).
So far, the only game I couldn't get to boot up at all was Suikoden 2. (which I think is just a glitch on my rip, rather than the emulator, since it has issues in other emu's)
~Brandon
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Post by Orusaka on Mar 11, 2006 18:45:12 GMT -5
Well, here both my patched PAL copies of ff8 and ff9 fail to run. Just get a black screen, they run fine in epsxe as said. I would the test the american versions, but I don't have them in bin, I don't feel like converting them.
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Post by mikie on Mar 12, 2006 7:49:20 GMT -5
FF9 [NTSC-US] runs fine in this emulator (that I've played so far). The PAL version (not patched), which my friend used, doesn't play. Once he patched it, he could play it up till the first trip to Lindbrum (error that freezes half-way thru the movie like using ePSXe 1.6.0). The only way we could get around this was to load the game in ePSXe 1.5.2, get past that area, then come back to pSX and continue. Legend of Dragoon [NTSC-US] I could get to play as well, but I had to apply a patch to it (this appears to be one of the few NTSC-US games that has the same protections as the PAL games). So far, the only game I couldn't get to boot up at all was Suikoden 2. (which I think is just a glitch on my rip, rather than the emulator, since it has issues in other emu's) ~Brandon Brandon, where can i find the patch so I can play the game. My PAL playstation wont work anymore, and I just have an urge to play legend of the dragoon again. So I really want to get the game working with the emulator! Thanx!
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Post by Orusaka on Mar 12, 2006 8:57:19 GMT -5
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Post by mikie on Mar 12, 2006 9:43:48 GMT -5
So this means that I have to convert the game to ISO or bin/que and then apply the patch?! What tool should I use? thanx!
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Post by Orusaka on Mar 12, 2006 14:48:36 GMT -5
Yes, you have to rip to image-files to patch the games. The intented format is bin+cue, but it should theoretically work on other formats as well. Just get the patch you need from here: www.megagames.com/psx/psx_patches.shtml. Then get PPF-O-Matic from here: www.megagames.com/psx/psx_ppf.shtml#PPF-O-Matic. Then everything should work nicely. Alternatly, you could also use epxe, and enable sub-channel data. (If your disc station supports reading sub-channel data that is.) However, it is by far easier to just crack the protection once and for all.
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Post by emulover on Mar 14, 2006 3:09:33 GMT -5
And this is the reason why the entire PSX collection has to be redumped with subchannel data, and EAC for perfect audio (which then have to be injected into the iso)
And then the emulators should emulate the protection chip exactly
and then finally we would need to invent some kind of compression format like the cdz that also stores the subchannel data and other protections
but im talking like a mame'r/mess'r now...
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Post by mikie on Mar 14, 2006 4:11:56 GMT -5
Yes, you have to rip to image-files to patch the games. The intented format is bin+cue, but it should theoretically work on other formats as well. Just get the patch you need from here: www.megagames.com/psx/psx_patches.shtml. Then get PPF-O-Matic from here: www.megagames.com/psx/psx_ppf.shtml#PPF-O-Matic. Then everything should work nicely. Alternatly, you could also use epxe, and enable sub-channel data. (If your disc station supports reading sub-channel data that is.) However, it is by far easier to just crack the protection once and for all. I've been trying all morning, but I can't seem to copy all the files from the cdrom over to my computer to make an ISO image, I can't convert it from the cdrom either? Must be some kind of protection.. Any ideas?
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Post by ddkram on Mar 15, 2006 11:46:57 GMT -5
well i had a problem very simler to this on pcsx when i used to use it with FF7. with me being a PAL user alot of my original games didnt work when using the emulator with the scph1001.bin bios so instead i found a SCPH7502.bin and renamed it to scph1001.bin and used that instead and then FF7 worked fine and so did a few of my other PAL original games. hope this helps.
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