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Post by Gamesoul Master on Jul 18, 2006 18:28:37 GMT -5
It seems that you and me, patrickp, are thinking on the same lines here. Sad thing is... they'll get away with it, and they'll do it with general consumer consent, since most people wouldn't be able to see through something if it was made of glass. Windows Media Center... Windows Vista... two big examples of money-making scams. They've already pretty much turned away from upgrade-versions of Windows (WMC has to be pre-installed on a new system or clean-installed on a system that meets the requirements... Vista, as far as I know, is set to be the same way). WMP11 requires validation to download, and then checks validation *again* when installing. OEM keys of XP Pro (even legit ones) being removed from their list of valid keys... while I understand where they're coming from, I don't approve of it at all. They're trying too hard. Hell, remember the hell Nintendo raised over Galoob's Game Genie? These companies need to ease up a bit. By worrying about the small change they may be losing, they're losing the bigger money by pissing off customers who were once loyal to them. They really need to adjust their priorities to pleasing customers instead of making a few extra dollars... it'll help them in the long run.
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Post by Ultima on Jul 18, 2006 22:10:55 GMT -5
That'll never fly, as they're already under monopoly watch by a bunch of governments (lol look at the EU suing Microsoft every few months).
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Post by Gamesoul Master on Jul 19, 2006 5:43:12 GMT -5
Which part will never fly? Leasing vs owning a Windows OS?
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Post by Ultima on Jul 19, 2006 6:22:24 GMT -5
The part where you upgrade at their whim, and for money.
Back on topic (sorta), it seems like PS3 is in production... odd enough, but I guess everything's finalized.
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Post by xaust on Jul 19, 2006 15:15:28 GMT -5
I haven't had if confirmed but Sony suggested that their controller would sport motion detection similar to the Wii. Remember though, that the "revolutionary technology" has been around for years. They've been used in many devices from computer mice to arcade combat simulators and Virtual reality devices. Even The Power Glove had a primitive motion sensor in it. Also, Blu-Ray, is just a CD format. The Blue Laser disk was developed by IBM in the '70's about the time they developed the CD drive and co-developed the DVD drive/format. The technology has been available for over 30 years, so the pricing is purely for profit. Sony is pricing the system for profit as well, which they have confirmed. I am considering sticking to the PSX and PS2 for my PlayStation needs. I don't think I can stomach Sony's current Customer Relations policies. I don't think FF7 for the PS3 will even change my mind. I'll probably just buy a new computer and a $50 commercial emulator. Microsoft's Genuine Windows crap has stirred up a lot of legal trouble for the company. They have been trying to solve the problems created for actual customers also, but I doubt the 'product' will last much longer (I hope). Sony too have been getting in serious trouble 'spying' on their customers, so its not just an RIAA/Microsoft thing. I have no need nor desire to buy an XBox360. Halo3 may be attractive, but I'm not shelling out $300 bucks for a crippled version of a $400 system. (Same with PS3.) I would actually consider buying a Wii. The name (to me) doesn't sound silly. I'm not one for toilet humor, so I find all the plays on the name to be childish. I was thinking Wireless Interface or something. It even resembles WiFi, so it looks to me more like an acronym. The reason being that Nintendo is going a separate rout from the "Big Players" who are single-handedly destroying the gaming industry by their own selfish greed, departing from the traditional model in order to get more money per unit. Also, I think that there will be some good games for the system. By restricting the developers via hardware, you force them to use their heads. System power has increased exponentially and yet game quality has declined. I'm actually looking forward to Nintendo's Next-Generation Virtual Boy
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Post by astrogordon on Jul 19, 2006 21:05:26 GMT -5
The PS3 motion-sensing controller looks really really limited compared to the Wii controller. I was going to buy a PS3 but i've been watching some videos of the games that are going to be released for Wii and they look really fun to play and I have to agree with everything you said xaust
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Post by Ultima on Jul 19, 2006 21:19:05 GMT -5
@xaust: Last I heard, Sony was losing at least $100 for each PS3. As for saying that Blu-Ray should be cheap since blue laser optical discs were created in the 70's... it's not as easy as saying it's the same technology. Things have evolved since then, and if it were as easy as just taking the old technology, everyone would've seen and heard of it by now. Development was definitely there, so the Blu-Ray drive's price, though a bit steep, is not wholly unjustified. I still have my Virtual Boy... with one game (Vertical Force). Haven't played it in such a long time
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Post by smegforbrain on Jul 19, 2006 22:55:12 GMT -5
And that new Shadowrun game they're releasing after buying FASA a few years ago. Their Shadowrun game isn't even going to be set in Shadowrun's (the actual pen-and-paper) timeframe! I went looking for info on this game last night after you mentioned it. Man, that game looks like it's gonna be total crap. The PS3 motion-sensing controller looks really really limited compared to the Wii controller. Well, the PS3 controller isn't meant to do quite the same stuff as what the Wii controller will do. It's basically your standard PSX controller with some motion control stuff instead of Dual Shock. I'll get a PS3 eventually, but since it's Blue Ray, I'd love to actually have an HD-TV to go with it, and that's probably not going to happen for awhile.
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Post by Gamesoul Master on Jul 20, 2006 7:56:11 GMT -5
The PS3 controller only has gyro-type motion sensing... more like tilt-detection than actual motion detection.
Blu-Ray, though conceived of years ago, has advanced as already mentioned, and a blu-ray player is more expensive than the PS3, so it's technically a good deal.
"Wii" doesn't technically stand for anything. Supposedly, the pronunciation, being the same as "we", is supposed to bring to mind "all of us as a gaming community" and set it apart from the other consoles. The name, in appearance, is indeed weird if you're not used to looking at romanized japanese text.
As much as I like the playstation (any generation), I still wish other systems had a decent variety of RPG's and Strategy games. My roommate bought the XBox 360 and so I'm trying to deal with it, and even though I know it was released only a short time ago, I'm having a hard time finding any good games for it. I have NFS:MWBE, so I really have no need to get NFS:MW (which supposedly contains everything Black Edition has for PS2), because it's not graphics I care about at all. So... I'll probably buy a PS3 when I've decided that I need a fresh supply of RPG's (basically when I can walk into a game store and I've played or tried every RPG they have for PS2).
I'm just glad Sony stuck to the DualShock design. The increased accuracy and sensitivity of the PS3's DualShock over the DualShock2 is also greatly appreciated... making a good thing even better.
Microsoft is gonna regret releasing that Shadowrun game when they realize that most Shadowrun fans will refuse to play it. If they were gonna make a Shadowrun game, they should've made it with a set of features expanded on from the Genesis version... maybe set it in 2070 or whenever to correspond to the 3rd Edition, or maybe even set to match the just-released 4th Edition! Deviating completely from the original storyline and matching deviant gameplay... not cool, Microsoft.
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Post by astrogordon on Jul 20, 2006 9:19:08 GMT -5
I'm just glad Sony stuck to the DualShock design. The increased accuracy and sensitivity of the PS3's DualShock over the DualShock2 is also greatly appreciated... making a good thing even better. The "boomerang" prototype didn't look that bad and I think they deciced to stick with the DualShock design cause it is a trademark of the Playstation.
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Post by Ultima on Jul 20, 2006 10:14:48 GMT -5
Major jaw droppage here when I first saw the boomerang design. Just... wow, I personally hated it, and couldn't imagine using a controller with that design.
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Post by Gamesoul Master on Jul 20, 2006 16:29:32 GMT -5
Yeah, upon seeing it, my first thought was "Is PS3 gonna be compatible with older controllers? I hope so..." XD
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Post by smegforbrain on Jul 23, 2006 1:34:08 GMT -5
Major jaw droppage here when I first saw the boomerang design. Just... wow, I personally hated it, and couldn't imagine using a controller with that design. Which is basically how I view the controller for the Wii. I heard reports out of E3 where people used that new Wii controller for a bit, and they were sore afterward. The movments would be something you'd get used to, but you have actually *want* to play a game like that to begin with - I don't. As for the original boomerang design for the PS3 controller, I wasn't going to make a decision on it until I had it in my hands. It seemed like (much like Nintendo) Sony was going for change just for the sake of change. But, let's face it, the PSX controller is very successful.
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Post by endgame on Jul 26, 2006 8:19:22 GMT -5
;D rofl
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Post by MotM on Aug 13, 2006 22:28:31 GMT -5
My time with nintendo is over and I'm gonna get the ps3. Casual games, devil may cry, final fantasy, my favorite series continues here. It gonna be expensive, but my brother in law has connections who gets stuff for half the price.
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