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Post by BlackVivi on Jan 16, 2007 6:36:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2007 7:53:25 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to make an account in ngemu to vote. pSX is hanging tight on the second spot it seems.
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Post by Ultima on Jan 16, 2007 9:37:54 GMT -5
pSX should be first place. I can NOT understand how PCSX2 is holding the top spot; while it has made some progress this year, I simply can't call it innovation.
I totally agree with the people in that thread: the only reason PCSX2 is winning is because of all the (clueless, n00b) fanboys. Do notice how they needed to make a special link for the PCSX2 forum so that it would show the warning thread before you actually get into the real PCSX2 forum -- something I consider really sad, but I guess that's the reality of it all.
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Post by stranger90 on Jan 16, 2007 9:44:09 GMT -5
PCSX2 it's still working for now, so I vote pSX!
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Post by patrickp on Jan 16, 2007 14:15:56 GMT -5
PCSX2 has taken a long, long time to get from totally not working to sort of working on top end machines. pSX worked in its first release, and rapidly went to being the best Playstation emulator of all - and it still isn't a year old. Naturally, I voted pSX.
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Post by TheCloudOfSmoke on Jan 16, 2007 15:11:45 GMT -5
Innovation means something new and inventive. pSX is exactly that. It came out this year (so it's new) and it's one of the few PS emulators that don't require plugins and is very simple to use (inventive). If you can't sign up using your "hotmail" account, just use lycos  . Please vote, pSX deserves it. You already know who I voted for  .
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Post by stranger90 on Jan 16, 2007 15:12:39 GMT -5
pSX worked in its first release ...yes, but not at well  ! We are at the 2° place 
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Post by patrickp on Jan 16, 2007 16:24:45 GMT -5
Oh, I don't know. Quite a few games worked pretty much perfectly in the first release. That's a leeetle more than you could say for PCSX2's first release. In fact, it's pretty much more than you can say about PCSX2 now...  And we may be in second place, but the fanboys have given over three times as many votes to PCSX2 as we have to pSX. Style over content...
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Post by kinghanco on Jan 16, 2007 17:55:11 GMT -5
Screw the voting over there. Lets make a voting here.
If anyone say that PCSX2 is the best then they are so wrong about that. Look how crappy the PCSX2 is at. The graphics and sounds aren't that good on PCSX2 because of the plug-ins. They might as well start over from scratch without any plug-ins support and get it done the right way. If they can't then they are using drivers hacking on PCSX2 which make it the top crappy list. PCSX2 does not need plug-ins support! lol
pSX still the best on the top list.
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Post by TheCloudOfSmoke on Jan 16, 2007 18:30:14 GMT -5
I can't wait for pSX Author's PS2 emulator ;D ;D ;D. It will blow all of the comptetion (if there's really any at that point) away.
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Post by Ultima on Jan 16, 2007 18:53:39 GMT -5
kinghanco: At this point, I wouldn't say PCSX2 has bad compatibility as a consequence of using a plugin system. It's in its "laying the groundwork" stages, so expecting it to have great compatibility, plugin system or not, is a bit... out there... And voting here wouldn't make it any more of a fair vote. In fact, it'd make it even less of a fair vote -- NGEmu is a general emulation news site, whereas these forums are mainly used to discuss pSX. It's like saying how much you hate a mob boss out in the public (voting on PCSX2 in a general forum), but when the mob boss calls you in to his lair (bringing the vote to pSX's official forums) -- do you think you'd be able to say that without getting a good beating (PCSX2 getting destroyed here)? Yes, that analogy was a bit of a stretch (and a crappy one at that xD). Oh well, it gets the point across 
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Post by patrickp on Jan 16, 2007 19:30:31 GMT -5
For enhancing emulators that are built to use the hardware processing capacity of videocards, a plugin system becomes much more worthwhile because, with the vastly differing abilities and characteristics of different videocards, you can select a plugin to make the most of whatever your graphics card can do. It may be that you're using an emulator like ePSXe for enhancement, or an emulator like PCSX2 where the performance of the system it's being run on is critical but, in these situations, the choice and configuration options of plugins can be very useful.
For pSX, which is about accurate emulation and will either be running on systems that can easily handle what it needs to do, or low end systems where software emulation is probably the best solution anyway, a plugin system would be redundant.
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Post by Ultima on Jan 16, 2007 19:45:52 GMT -5
Seeing as how the requirements for emulating a PS2 is sky-high, you'd need a computer with decent specs to emulate it all already. If that is the case, using the graphics card (which, itself, should already be decent) to offload processing from the CPU is definitely a good idea. IMHO, with PS2 emulation, decent speeds will be much more feasible the way PCSX2 is progressing.
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Post by Melanogaster on Jan 16, 2007 23:19:58 GMT -5
Pff... My vote is so predictable... Damn fanboys.
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Post by Ultima on Jan 17, 2007 1:28:59 GMT -5
Further clarification on my opinion... TBH, I can't say my opinion isn't biased, as I'm not too familiar with most of the other emulators listed in the ballot, but pSX (IMHO) at least brought more to the table than PCSX2 in 2006. Although the idea of writing an emulator that uses a no fuss, no bull, no plugin approach isn't new, it's a fresh and sharp turn from the reigning "dynasty" of PSEmu Pro-based emulators. Even CDZ, though not revolutionary, was an innovation itself, as it meant decent image compression with no performance hit. As much respect as the PCSX2 team deserves (and they definitely deserve a lot), improved compatibility (which, from what I can tell, is all PCSX2 has brought this past year) is hardly an innovation -- it's solid progress, but not innovation.
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