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Post by Ultima on Jan 22, 2007 17:58:58 GMT -5
An expected result, but disappointing nonetheless... /me shakes a fist at PCSX2/n00bs... BTW, congratulations on the avatar award, TCoS  |
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Post by TheCloudOfSmoke on Jan 22, 2007 21:36:53 GMT -5
An expected result, but disappointing nonetheless... /me shakes a fist at PCSX2/n00bs... BTW, congratulations on the avatar award, TCoS  . Thanks Ultima. It is a bit dissapointing but I'd like to thank you guys for doing such a good job here and at ngemu for sticking up for our little emulator. We have a really great fanbase here! |
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Post by Gamesoul Master on Jan 23, 2007 4:30:18 GMT -5
Yeah... I'm waiting to get banned from there for my relentless bashing of ePSXe compared to pSX... XD. That little mini-war I had with hushypushy got a little nasty, but I was rather hoping it'd go on longer (though I did kindly back off the issue when it tapered down a bit). I figure... hell, *somebody* has to stick up for pSX there, with everybody crazy for ePSXe and PCSX2. And of course, I must congratulate you on winning, though you of course know I voted for you... in every poll you were in. |
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Post by TheCloudOfSmoke on Jan 23, 2007 7:31:37 GMT -5
Yeah... I'm waiting to get banned from there for my relentless bashing of ePSXe compared to pSX... XD. That little mini-war I had with hushypushy got a little nasty, but I was rather hoping it'd go on longer (though I did kindly back off the issue when it tapered down a bit). I figure... hell, *somebody* has to stick up for pSX there, with everybody crazy for ePSXe and PCSX2. And of course, I must congratulate you on winning, though you of course know I voted for you... in every poll you were in. Thanks GM. You guys are really great. The way I bash ePSXe is by telling a person who is asking a question about how to play a game on ePSXe to go use pSX so they can skip all of the BS. Lol. I'll look out for you over there cause some of the higher ups will chew out anyone with a sub-10,000 post count  . Some of the members over there are really cool too and are starting to grow on me. But if you do get banned, it's their loss really cause I always see that you trying to help people with pSX more than the other members over there. I think that pSX is getting really popular (not more popular than PCSX2, of course) but it's really making its mark on the emulation scene. I see a lot of people switching over to pSX now. |
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Post by psicomaniaco on Jan 23, 2007 8:52:22 GMT -5
Yeah... I'm waiting to get banned from there for my relentless bashing of ePSXe compared to pSX... XD. That little mini-war I had with hushypushy got a little nasty, but I was rather hoping it'd go on longer (though I did kindly back off the issue when it tapered down a bit). I figure... hell, *somebody* has to stick up for pSX there, with everybody crazy for ePSXe and PCSX2. Hahaha, you'll be banned soon, I'm sure. Hushypushy is the type of admin that bans you just for having diferent opinions than him. That place is full of this kind of shitty and robotic-like admins. Thats why I left there for good. |
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Post by Ultima on Jan 23, 2007 8:56:00 GMT -5
Sub-10,000? Wouldn't that include you then, TCoS? xP I'd say they have a tendency to chew out anyone who doesn't use common sense there, and though the environment there is harsh, it's understandable -- after all, they've had to deal with MANY MORE nubcakes there in all their years running than we'll likely ever deal with here... Doesn't make it right for them to act the way they do, but from my POV, it's still understandable. FWIW, I've been a member since 2003, and while I haven't posted much, I've never been on any of the administrators'/moderators' bad side. Why? Common sense  @gamesoul Master: lol I saw you backing away from hushy in that Chrono Trigger thread xD |
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Post by psicomaniaco on Jan 23, 2007 11:08:26 GMT -5
I'm an old member there. I joined in 2001. At that time, the forum was fantastic. The members where great, and the admins wheren't power-abusers. We where free to have our own opinions there, and people where friendly.
Now its not like this. People complain too much, argue with you for the smallest things, and the admins (Hushy isn't even the worst one there. lalala... Katsuya...) act like they own the place. Its sad...
BTW: common sense?? More like saying what they wanna hear!
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Post by Ultima on Jan 23, 2007 11:17:56 GMT -5
Eh I'd actually meant common sense as in actually reading stickies, readmes, manuals, bothering to search through the forums, and the like. As for voicing opinions... I wouldn't know |
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Post by Gamesoul Master on Jan 23, 2007 11:18:27 GMT -5
TheCloudOfSmoke: Thanks for the support. Us pSX fanboys have to have each other's backs, eh? But yeah... I figure if so many people go there, and there's a forum specifically for pSX... Well, I try my best here at the official forums, so no reason I shouldn't help out there, especially since when I first signed up there, I saw almost no signs of anybody putting any continual effort into helping pSX users (except for hushypushy, the ePSXe fanboy). Seeing every other answer to pSX problems as "use ePSXe instead" is not what I consider help. Ultima: I have plenty of common sense. But I'm not going to sit by and watch people ignorantly talk about how much better ePSXe is, and about how ePSXe and pSX can't be compared because ePSXe uses plugins and pSX doesn't... pure ignorance. I'm not going to let stupidity go unchecked or let pSX get wrongly shot down out of worry of getting banned or something. Besides, if they ban me, who's gonna be there every day to check up on and help solve any real problems that may come along for pSX? Certainly not hushypushy... And yeah... I had to back off that CT thread. I started to sense from hushypushy's posts that if I pursued the issue, my future there was gonna come to an end really quick... in addition to realizing that he's far too deluded to ever understand the ignorance of his reasoning. I had already said quite enough to get my whole point put out there... XD Edit: Ahh... from how you spoke of common sense, I wouldn't have guessed you meant it like that. Well... I think it goes both ways... having the "common sense" to not speak any opinions that conflict too much with certain admins' opinions is certainly one way to not get banned or be on their bad side. Too bad you'll never see me stay quiet like that... lol.
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Post by Ultima on Jan 23, 2007 11:19:54 GMT -5
O.O lol people are misunderstanding me again -- I wasn't referring to you not having common sense, I was referring to (many of) the people that get flamed/banned or have their threads locked in the forums... -.- Edit @ Edit: |
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Post by Gamesoul Master on Jan 23, 2007 11:24:45 GMT -5
Well... easy to misunderstand, considering your post came after psicomaniaco's post talking about opinions and such... so it seemed to follow that your post was a more direct reply to his. Then of course, since I got distracted while posting my reply, you two each snuck in another post each while I was typing... XD
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Post by Ultima on Jan 23, 2007 11:25:42 GMT -5
He actually snuck his post in before mine while I was responding to TCoS too xD Timing is everything, and so is my laziness to add the "@tcos" to my post ;P
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Post by patrickp on Jan 23, 2007 14:34:20 GMT -5
It's very noticeable that, while there's a very obvious preference for pSX here, it's possible to compare pSX and ePSXe rationally. Why not on the ngemu forums? Why are people there so fixated on ePSXe - and PCSX2?
I think there's a very simple reason - apart from the pack mentality - and that's what we look for in a game. Over here, the bottom line for a lot of people - maybe most - is the game. How playable it is, how immersive the experience is, how much fun it is - and so on. But we all know people whose only concern with games is how impressive they are - how good the graphics are, how good the sound is, how much of a high-end machine you need for it...
And so - some people prefer an emulator - or any game experience - that doesn't come between you and the game, and some people prefer an experience where the game doesn't matter - you spend all your time bragging about how good it looks, sounds, etc. If you don't come out of playing a game with your eyeballs (all three of them) spinning and your ears (all 7.1 of them) bleeding, it's a failure.
And it shows in the attitudes displayed in the forums - enjoying the game for its own sake is much more conducive to tolerance and mutual altruism - the impress me now! attitude inclines more to aggression and elitism. Or maybe it's the other way round - tolerant and altruistic people tend more to enjoying the game, as they tend to enjoying life, and aggressive elitists go for the bleeding ears edge...
Oh, and how it relates - you can't crank pSX up like that. 'My game runs perfectly...' 'My game runs even more perfectly' - but how can anything be more perfect than perfect? No room for bragging rights there...
Over here, we aim more at getting a good pSX experience for everyone using it. The requirements to run pSX at optimum may have increased since its inception, but still remain well within the capabilities of a fair proportion of the machines used by members - and many more borderline systems could be running pSX well if they were only better maintained, rather than needing hefty upgrades.
On the other hand, PCSX2 is the perfect bragging platform - I don't suppose anyone really runs games perfectly on it yet, so talking about it can be a very competitive activity. Even with ePSXe, you can use the top end plugin for your graphics card, get all the enhancement extras, and still try to get the game running smoothly. It also means you can be secretive and/or elitist about how you're getting the results you are.
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Post by TheCloudOfSmoke on Jan 23, 2007 14:59:17 GMT -5
You were right on that thread GM, pSX can be comparable to ePSXe in terms of compatibility and you did state some valid points on that thread. Even though I thought that you were right, you just have to sell out sometime and don't argue with them. Think of it this way, if you get banned, who will the pSX noobs have to help them? Trust me, hushy was banning and flaming people left and right early last year but then he slowed down and tried to help more. You know hushy has his own website. It was made by a member who he banned: hushypushy.com/There are some other high ups over there who are just ruthless to the bone and will flame the hell out of you just because you are not as smart as them technologically. Not everyone is a genious at hardware, programming and emulation (I myself am certainly not either). Those same people that I'm talking about got many votes in the best admin of the year and most helpful member of the year awards for being really helpful and ice. I was thinking to myself, "those people who voted must have not seen the posts that I've seen from them" or else they wouldn't have voted for them. That includes me too Ultima. XD I have managed to get by this far over there without getting banned, so I would say I'm doing pretty good. There are a few members over there whos only purpose is to only make pointless spamposts and nothing else but they get away with it because they have seniority. I have never seen one productive posts coming from those particular people, ever. The thing is is that I have made a few off-topic spam posts and got an infraction over there because I was joking around. Those people get away with it because that's what they do all of the time and it's more noticable when I do it since I don't do it all of the time. |
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Post by Melanogaster on Jan 23, 2007 16:36:49 GMT -5
I remember some people at NGEmu getting pissed about psicomaniaco's exclamation marks, some time ago... Damn, that was really... silly. |
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. Thanks Ultima.
. Some of the members over there are really cool too and are starting to grow on me. But if you do get banned, it's their loss really cause I always see that you trying to help people with pSX more than the other members over there. I think that pSX is getting really popular (not more popular than PCSX2, of course) but it's really making its mark on the emulation scene. I see a lot of people switching over to pSX now.
