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Post by Truth Unknown on Sept 22, 2006 5:40:16 GMT -5
Well its in the Release Candidate Stages and pretty much stable. Hell I'm running it right now. Is anyone testing it, or have tried in the past? Anyone Interested in it? etc? Oh before I forget, DirectSound is now dead and audio performance for DSound has dropped a bit and features lost (EAX in DSound games, Hardware Acceleration with DSound). I kinda fell sad for the Creative Labs developers for working on drivers with the loss of DSound in addition to kMixer being dropped too and a few other things. Well im sad that my Audigy 4 won't be happy until the drivers are done. Vista Audio and Creative Labs
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Post by smegforbrain on Sept 22, 2006 16:49:42 GMT -5
I'm getting the impression that folks should really hold off on Vista until they're guaranteed to have hardware that will work with it.
I was in no rush to get XP when I had 2k, and I'm in no rush to get Vista now that I've got XP.
But, it's going to be inevitable that the new new computer I get (should I buy one instead of putting together my own) will have Vista on it.
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Post by Gamesoul Master on Sept 22, 2006 18:52:31 GMT -5
No DirectSound, amongst other things? Yeah... it'll be a cold day in hell before I even *consider* getting Vista. To be honest, I see absolutely no advantage to me getting Vista. I can do without a search feature in explorer windows and such. The convenience isn't worth the pain (or memory/processor strain). If I get a new computer and Vista is on it, I'm gonna reformat the computer and put either XP Pro or XP MC2005 on it. I have WMP11 and IE7... that's good enough for now.
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Post by Ultima on Sept 23, 2006 8:18:17 GMT -5
As great as the improvements in Vista sound (really), there isn't actually anything compelling enough for me to want to switch -- yet, anyway.
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Post by patrickp on Sept 23, 2006 9:35:26 GMT -5
I was in no rush to get XP when I had 2k, and I'm in no rush to get Vista now that I've got XP. I'm still in no rush to get XP...
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Post by smegforbrain on Sept 23, 2006 19:10:20 GMT -5
I've been using XP for over 3 years now, and it's a really stable OS compared to 2k, so I've found it worthwhile.
The worst thing is the inability to play some older games (which had already become a problem on 2k).
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Post by R4Zi3L on Sept 24, 2006 3:29:08 GMT -5
well... there are DosBox, VDM Sound or Virtual PC...
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Post by smegforbrain on Sept 24, 2006 15:46:38 GMT -5
I used to use DosBox and VDM a bit, and the compatibility wasn't great with them. Or, like ePSXe, you spent far more time screwing around trying to get a game to work, rather than playing the game.
Not sure about Virutal PC.
You can still play some older games on 2k and XP without the need of emulation, but MS is just making it harder and harder with each successive OS.
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Post by Firehawke on Sept 25, 2006 2:57:23 GMT -5
I'm going to be installing RC1 on this machine shortly (since it's past midnight and into Monday, I can say 'probably today if my buddy brings his disc like he's supposed to-- I don't feel like downloading the 3GB public RC1 image..'). I'm a firm believer in running MS betas when and where possible, so as to be ready *well ahead of the time* for the questions that will inevitably occur.
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Post by Firehawke on Sept 25, 2006 3:01:50 GMT -5
Hate doubleposting, but this one kinda deserves its own point-- DirectSound isn't really DEAD, people. It's dead in the same way ALL DirectX1-DirectX9 calls are. They're no longer run at the *native* level, but "emulated" in DirectX10. You should notice almost no speed drop on any of that, from what I'm understanding, running "legacy" DirectX (and that includes Direct3D, of course) applications. Edit: Well, that phrasing was mildly dopey-- DirectSound is part of DirectX. Duuh. What was I thinking? Fixed wording by adding an 'ALL' in there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2006 16:20:26 GMT -5
I have faith in Vista. Despite Windows bad name in some circles and the weird hatred towards XP, I have found XP to be very good for the whole time I've used it. I don't have a spare comp to test Vista in it (or room for dualboot, if that is possible even) so I don't really know where I'm basing my faith in. ;D I guess I never really had any big problems with any of them, BSODs have never been much of a problem for me either. 3.11, w95, w98 and XP all served me well. But I obviously won't be getting it immediately. I'm not sure if the international versions will be available the same time as the Us one, for one reason. Secondly, I'll wait for driver supports for all my devices and whatnot before diving in. Thirdly, I may or may not have the cash to spare. Besides, I'm running a XP/Linux dualboot right now anyway, maybe by the time Vista is out I'll be fulltime Linux user. ;D
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Post by m4m on Oct 14, 2006 10:27:09 GMT -5
these are just my opinions, so please take them just as that.... Vista is a really beautiful OS, but thats about it. It is a major resource hog with that bloated GUI (you thought XP was bad.....think again). I have tested the latest public build and found nothing ground-breaking really, but I have found combatibility issues, mainly with games. Yes, this is a beta still, but so far I have not seen anything that really warrents an OS change, yet. I was a vista fan until I found out that they dropped their new file system the VM's have their limitations also. I installed VMWare in hopes that I could play one of my favorite old-time games, such as black and white, but they wont work in VM machines..... If you really want to run everything that you want, you need to partition the daylights out of your HD, setup something like this, in this order.... If you play DOS games, or like to play around in dos, set that up first, then have win98/me installed next on the 2nd partition, and the 3rd have winxp installed. Is this a pain in the arse, you bet. does it pay off in the long run.....that depends. If you use alot of older software that has issues in 2k/kp, then yes, this setup will pay off big time. If you only use an older app/game once in a blue moon, then try to find an alternitive to what you currently use.
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Post by Truth Unknown on Oct 14, 2006 13:54:46 GMT -5
Well Final Fantasy VII (Win98 Game) has no problems on a clean install. No patches. You just need a MIDI driver installed for it to work. Command & Conquer (Win95 Game) works out of the box from the First Decade pack. But as you mention DOS, I think the emulation for it is complete. I can check that if you want.
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Post by Gamesoul Master on Oct 20, 2006 4:04:12 GMT -5
I found this, and it made me smile... =) Edit: Found this one too... be sure to click the first link when you get to it also (about 10-15% slower... you'll see what I mean).
Well, after reading these articles and catching up on the newest official information on Vista from Microsoft, I can safely say that I'm less enthusiastic about Vista than I am about ePSXe (and y'all know how I feel about ePSXe...). I didn't think my opinion of Vista could've dropped any lower than it was... but it has. I'm hoping that so few people buy it, Microsoft might feel motivated to actually revise Vista to the point that it actually has significant advantages over XP (because really people, shouldn't a newer version of something be *better* and *more* worth buying than the older version?!?).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2006 10:45:52 GMT -5
I'm going to leave the judging later, after I have actually tried it myself. To me, all these anti-vista rants are just that, rants. Same goes for pro-vista rants as well.
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